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David Bergsland's avatar

Well said. I hadn't heard the Rev. 12 sign tied to the blood moons. But what you say makes sense. I wrote recently almost word for word what you said about the NWO goal of 500 million being a lot larger than men being made as rare as the fine gold of Ophir in Isaiah 13:12.

I believe the key to it all is that the size of the Bride will be completed by the Rapture. Tribulation saints will probably be considered messianic Jews (beheaded and part of the first resurrection?). The church and the Old Testament believers will be gone at that point. I can't say that's clearly Biblical.

My mind says, that adding to the Bride after we're already married does not seem likely to me. But then I tend to believe that the great throng in Rev. 7 is the Bride with the great tribulation spoken of there being the church age. The Tribulation saints seem to be largely seen in Rev. 13:7 done in by the Antichrist. But that is certainly open to debate.

In the nineties, the Lord told me that (like the first time He came) very few would figure it out completely. Primarily, I believe, because most are using intellectual analysis rather than getting spiritual revelation. I remember that when Jesus was born, only two old ones in the temple understood who he really was [plus, the wise men to a certain degree]. As far as I know, no one else understood that until after Yeshua was born again and filled with the Spirit In Luke 4—except for Mary and Elizabeth. Even John the Baptist did not know until he saw the spirit as a dove descend and remain on Jesus.

The Lord has been very careful to keep things relatively vague—so that everyone has to go by faith. As I commonly say, if you don't have faith for the pre-trib rapture, God won't force you. You'll still be saved. But you will probably not be part of Messiah's Bride. But again, that cannot be proven scripturally. I spent ten years of intense searching about the truth of the Rapture in the eighties and nineties. The one the Lord finally used [for me] was Isaiah 57:1 RSV.

||> "The righteous man perishes,

and no one lays it to heart;

devout men are taken away,

while no one understands.

For the righteous man is taken away from calamity," <||

I've never heard anyone talk about that. That verse implies that the rapture will not be noticed. I can think of several reasons why that is so. But it's all speculation. The most obvious being that we go up and the aliens come down—and that's an idea of man, not scripture.

I agree that it is obvious we are at the place where all men and women are deciding what they believe. There will be no one on the fence when it all comes down. Thanks again for your clear word...

P Maillet's avatar

The Lord has kept the subject of the pre-trib Rapture right before my eyes, constant even after all these years. When I asked him to show me the correct timing of the Rapture he gave me Isaiah 26:19-20. An OLD TESTAMENT Rapture verse! I may have posted this recently, I post it so often as needed, then forget where I posted it

https://pmailletwebsite.com/rapture/

David Bergsland's avatar

Thanks for that link. That's the most scriptural reasoning I've seen.

David Bergsland's avatar

Yup, that goes to my point that the Lord tells each us scripture to set our faith. There is no overall direct step by step passage. Those of us saved as catholics have a longer route, it seems. I am an Episcopalian Charismatic, and you know how wacky we are. I was led to the Lord in a RC spirit-filled group, by my father who was an Episcopalian perpetual deacon.